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Title: asymptomatic Covid infections to transmission - Diamond Princess study
Post by: stog on May 10, 2020, 09:49:44 AM
On the Diamond Princess 74% (70-78%) of infections proceeded asymptomatically, i.e. a 1:3.8 case-to-infection ratio. Despite the intense testing 53%, (51-56%) of infections remained undetected, most of them asymptomatic. Asymptomatic individuals were the source for 69% (20-85%) of all infections. (CMMID)


https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/asymp-transmission.html (https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/asymp-transmission.html)
Title: Re: asymptomatic Covid infections to transmission - Diamond Princess study
Post by: stog on May 31, 2020, 09:40:26 AM
see also https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/30/could-nearly-half-of-those-with-covid-19-have-no-idea-they-are-infected (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/30/could-nearly-half-of-those-with-covid-19-have-no-idea-they-are-infected)

assume >50% asymptomatic
 and then remember those that do go on to show symptoms have already past peak transmissibility density


Title: asymptomatic cases at 80%
Post by: stog on May 31, 2020, 06:40:11 PM
a colleague from Cyprus tells me

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in Cyprus where more tests are done by percentage of population,   80 % are asymptomatic 15 % don't need hospitalisation 5 percent need hospitalisation less than 2% die .
Title: Re: asymptomatic possibly more infectious
Post by: stog on June 25, 2020, 07:22:46 PM
Perhaps of more practical importance right now is a study (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0965-6#Sec9) that followed up 37 asymptomatic people who had positive PCR tests. This showed they had detectable levels of the virus for longer that those who had symptoms. Asymptomatic people are therefore likely to be more contagious. We also know that pre-symptomatic people, those in the early days following infection with Sars-CoV-2, are also highly contagious (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2765641). Because we are often not aware that we are infected, measures to ensure social distancing and face covering are crucial when it comes to protecting others.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/25/viral-immunologist-antibody-tests-covid-19-immuity-coronavirus (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/25/viral-immunologist-antibody-tests-covid-19-immuity-coronavirus)
Title: Clinical and immunological assessment of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections
Post by: stog on June 25, 2020, 07:26:02 PM
the study referred to above is in Nature

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0965-6#Sec9 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0965-6#Sec9)
Title: Re: asymptomatic Covid infections to transmission - Diamond Princess study
Post by: stog on April 09, 2023, 06:35:57 PM
updated transmission chart

the Nature curve referenced above has now apparently been updated

see attachment below & is still the reason why Covid has such a high R number

in answer to someone:
People's immune systems differ & while someone may not react symptomatically their viral load (density) can be & is sufficient for spread